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18 Dec 2024 06:00 PM
18 Dec 2024 06:00 PM
Aw hun @Former-Member ,
That's tough to sit with these thoughts all the time.
I guess forums are a little different. Each person is in control of how much or how little they engage with a person. I wonder if this is learning we can take into the real world around how much we choose to or not to engage with people? Boundaries?
We are all here to learn. No one is perfect. Well I know I'm far from perfect!
18 Dec 2024 06:26 PM
18 Dec 2024 06:26 PM
I'm even further from being perfect. Very true though about how much we can choose to interact and I've tried this in the real world too. Now I just choose to be alone, not through lack of trying but I just can't handle being hurt anymore. I'm at that point that if one more thing goes wrong then I'm out.
18 Dec 2024 06:36 PM
18 Dec 2024 06:36 PM
I can certainly relate to that way to thinking. As though avoidance is safety. And you know what? Maybe at this time, it's totally okay as a way for you to heal @Former-Member
Then with healing comes the time when you decide whether this is the way you want to live the rest of your like, or whether you feel more ready to experience the joys that can come with interacting with others (caveat being, with joy comes sorrow). And this won't happen over night. It depends on what you want to do.
18 Dec 2024 06:41 PM
18 Dec 2024 06:41 PM
@tyme it's safer for me to stay alone. Less chance of me hurting anyone if noone likes me and I have no friends. I go out of my way now to make people hate me cos then I can't hurt anyone. So even when someone shows a slight interest in me my body and mind goes into defence mode and I push them away. I choose to live however long I have left alone.
18 Dec 2024 06:59 PM
18 Dec 2024 06:59 PM
Hey @Former-Member ,
Absolutely your choice if this is what you want. I don't like to mingle with too many people either.
And also, it's good to remember that how you feel about it can change over time and due to different circumstances.
18 Dec 2024 10:26 PM
18 Dec 2024 10:26 PM
@Former-Member
I can understand that feeling of always pushing people away. I did that for the first 43 years of my life. I was never close to anyone because I didn't trust anyone and just never let them close to me because I was so sure they would leave me or not like me if I let them close. I know there's nothing i can tell you that will change how you feel, or make you think differently. It's just how you've learnt to protect yourself, as I did, and I know it can take a lot for us to even begin to lower those defenses even just a bit.
But what you are doing here, by talking about how you feel to people here will hopefully, given some time, let you start to see that there are people who will try to understand and support you. It can take some time but just stick with it.
When I first joined here earlier in the year... my first thought was i'll read a few posts, maybe post one about myself (I still don't think I ever did) and I'll disappear once people get bored of listening to me. But people kept being supportive and slowly I started to get a bit of that trust that maybe there are people who were helpful and supportive. That I could open up and even if someone didn't totally understand me, they would try. So joining here at 53 years old, I finally began to trust people a little and open up about how I really felt for the first time ever. Those negative thoughts about myself started to loosen their grip and I started to believe people when they said nice things about me. I still struggle a lot with these doubts as it took a long time (a life time) to build these defenses and I don't think i'll ever be rid of them, but I do feel I can at least start to work around them now. So I can only say to you to just keep doing what you're doing and just keep that tiniest flicker of hope alive that things can get better and that there are people you can trust.
I guess that is one of the benefits of these forums, no one knows who you really are so you cant really hurt anyone here so that makes it safer to trust. After all, if you decide it's not working, you just stop logging in and it all goes away and we all just wonder what happened to that Gremlin24 person who was struggling so much. Likewise, you can't let anyone here down. Everyone here is here because of their own struggles and most of us find it helpful to use what we've learned from dealing with our own stuff to help others, so there is no sense of success or failure, just a desire to help other people who are struggling mentally. A bit like our own little 'tribe' i guess. So you are 100% in control of just how alone you want to be here and 100% in control of how much you want to share and how long you find it helpful here. I hope you stick around and find it as helpful as I have but if you don't well, we can be disappointed, or hurt, or let down by someone we don't know other than a username and what has been shared with us. All we can do is try to be helpful and supportive for as long as you allow us.
This way of looking at it is what helped me so much at the start to begin to feel that trust and safety. I just sincerely think that is what can help you so much right now.
18 Dec 2024 10:36 PM
18 Dec 2024 10:36 PM
@MJG017 thankyou. I'm trying to stick this out and see how things go. I have so much more i want to say but right now I'm struggling to put it into words.
18 Dec 2024 10:50 PM
18 Dec 2024 10:50 PM
@Former-Member
Just take your time and just keep doing whatever you feel you can or you need to. There is absolutely no pressure or right or wrong here. We can all see how extremely difficult and painful it is for you and we're here for you.
18 Dec 2024 10:53 PM
18 Dec 2024 10:53 PM
@MJG017 thankyou. Tonight I got a phone call that's just completely sent my anxiety into overdrive. It's brought up so much trauma from previous events and I'm struggling to deal with it.
18 Dec 2024 11:13 PM
18 Dec 2024 11:13 PM
@Former-Member
I must just feel so damn relentless! I assume this call is what kicked off the panic attack? I wish I knew of something to help. But just do whatever you need to do to keep yourself safe right now and we're here if you want to talk about any of it.
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