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18 Apr 2025 07:03 PM
18 Apr 2025 07:03 PM
There's been talk about the impacts of child sexual abuse during the early years... I've noticed it in me for the last 7-9 years... I don't have many memories without it... mine started around when my younger brother was born... before I even went to pre-kindy... it went on for over 20 years...
The impacts of CSA varies for individuals, but one thing I have learned is that up until the age is 7 you're still developing the neural pathways associated with who you are and what is your purpose.
When those pathways aren't nurtured and developed in a loving and caring environment it leaves lasting and very damaging consequences, consequences we will spend the rest of our lives dealing with.
In 2023 I wrote this about the unseen consequences of trauma, the impacts my CSA had on me that I was noticing...
"Abuse though means that you don't see yourself ever getting out, and that's exactly what the abuser wants, so that when you do get out, you have no one. There is no one to help you because they think your abuser is a good person who could never hurt anyone, let alone their daughter, so you run.
You try to find somewhere, you try to find someone to help you, but you're alone and you know it. You don't know how to live outside of an abusive environment, what normal looks like, that you move somewhere only to have them kick you out because you don't know how to live somewhere else, somewhere where they don't control your every move. You learn though and each house gets longer that you stay at.
Your relationships are the most confusing part though, you don't know how you should be treated because all you have known is abuse and nobody helped you then, so you get taken advantage of now. People see you differently, the damaged girl, the broken girl, she has no one, something must have happened to her, she has no family, she's alone.
When someone treats you nicely it scares you that you run from it because that's how it all starts and you don't want to get hurt again. You don't trust anyone and you don't trust yourself. You don't know where to find help or whether you would let them help you anyway.
People ask you about your family and you don't how to respond because you can't go back to them when you fought so hard to get away and it takes everything in you to stay away. You grieve when you see other families, what you consider normal and nobody seems to understand that, that your normal was different, your normal was abuse. Family gives you a bad taste in your mouth and that you may never see yours again and that people asking about them leads to you struggling because it hurts too much.
We think the trauma ends when we escape the abuse but it doesn't, it's uncertain if it ever really ends, because the unseen consequences of the trauma follow you into adulthood, because you were never prepared for something other than abuse. That's why people go back, they don't know anything else, how they're meant to be treated, how to live somewhere else, how to do something else, how to interact with society and we feel that nobody can help us because those that are meant to never have and we're too scared to let anyone else try.
The trauma we experience sets us up for failure and only the strong make it out as functional human beings. It displaces what should have been our childhood into our future that leaves us at a disadvantage because of the lack of learning and the cost it takes to learn later in life, a cost that not all are willing to bear."
I know for me now... the wiring in my brain became different... it wired for survival rather than love and so my brain protected me and adapted... found that libraries are safe... but no where else really was...
Being a CSA survivor, I am going to be honest, with our current system... we're set up to fail.
All our lives the system has failed us from failing to protect us as children, failing to see us as adults and failing to hear us as survivors.
It takes a community to raise a child/person
It takes a community to abuse a child/person
It takes a community to heal that child/person
So where is that community*? Where is the help we do desperately need to recover and live the lives we never dared to dream?
*Not counting sane
18 Apr 2025 07:12 PM - edited 18 Apr 2025 07:16 PM
18 Apr 2025 07:12 PM - edited 18 Apr 2025 07:16 PM
Thanks for having the courage to share
I have edited my reply because i decided I didn’t want share my experience
18 Apr 2025 07:12 PM
18 Apr 2025 07:12 PM
Thank you for sharing @avant-garde . It takes much courage to reach out and share your experiences. Thank you for trusting the SANE Forums community, and taking this powerful step to advocate for changes.
I am aware there are others who may want to contribute so I welcome you with open arms, but I won't tag anyone for now.
18 Apr 2025 08:20 PM
18 Apr 2025 08:20 PM
Hearing you @avant-garde .
My own CSA only occurred once but the chain of events kicked off a pattern of neglect and mistreatment that was an all-consuming cancer in the family dynamic. Actually there were earlier signs things weren't good. My mother "didn't know you spoke to babies" .
I'm sorry the pain has followed you for over 20 years and stays with you.
Actually there is another community for victim survivors of CSA and c-ptsd. Take a look at the Blue Knot Foundation website.
I find it hard to verbalise sometimes so am not expressing myself very well but I feel for you and am more than happy to support you in your present struggles and in any way you want to move forward.
18 Apr 2025 08:22 PM
18 Apr 2025 08:22 PM
Blue knot is amazing, I really appreciate them, I've been using their phone line for years
18 Apr 2025 08:40 PM
18 Apr 2025 08:40 PM
Thanks for sharing @avant-garde
I am sorry that you experienced those terrible things from your early years and yet you have shown compassion for others and contributed to the forums.
I think we need to be very careful in this space, because many people are fragile and still dealing with pretty basic aspects of their experiences and I think we should strive to be a very inclusive space.
I think we need to be careful about making definitive statements as it can again disempower and cause people to feel unseen and unheard yet again.
I'm sure that wasn't your intention.
I agree that everyone has experienced different traumas, including multiple forms (common in childhood abuse) and everyone will have experienced different impacts and used different coping strategies and may well be still using them.
So I feel that I would like to say that neural pathways are not fully formed until late teenage years perhaps early 20s. So people can have developmental trauma past the age of 7.
There are no hard age values. For example you are more likely to develop DID if you have experienced abuse or neglect before age 7yo, but people do develop it if they experience trauma after age 7yo.
People who experience trauma as tweens, teenagers and adults may also have life long effects of that trauma, they also sometimes feel worse because they feel they were old enough to be able to "fight off" the abuse.
So I would welcome anybody's stories and experiences and also those people who may find some value in reading the posts without sharing their stories.
Thanks for starting thread @avant-garde
18 Apr 2025 08:54 PM
18 Apr 2025 08:54 PM
Thanks for that gentle reminder @Till23 .
You're right, things that happened in my tweens and teens have also hurt. Some were ongoing but one was an incident I worked through with EMDR.
Yes brain development is said to continue into mid 20s. I wouldn't be surprised if networks are refined throughout life as judgement and wisdom mature. And there's the phenomenon of brain plasticity after illness or injury. Perhaps that's comforting as we can hope for healing.
18 Apr 2025 08:58 PM
18 Apr 2025 08:58 PM
I don't understand what statement your are referring to in regards to "definitive statements", I don't intend to exclude.
Can you please explain?
18 Apr 2025 09:15 PM
18 Apr 2025 09:15 PM
@avant-garde as I said I'm sure you weren't intending anything but;
The impacts of CSA varies for individuals, but one thing I have learned is that up until the age is 7 you're still developing the neural pathways associated with who you are and what is your purpose.
When those pathways aren't nurtured and developed in a loving and caring environment it leaves lasting and very damaging consequences, consequences we will spend the rest of our lives dealing with.
was the section I was referring to.
18 Apr 2025 09:23 PM
18 Apr 2025 09:23 PM
Ok that makes sense.
I believe that learning is a lifelong journey and like with tech, there is always more to learn.
Thank you for encouraging that in me
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